Sunday, October 23, 2011

Episode #12 Recorded 10/22/11


We had another great recording session, and this time it was just me and my good friend Delia Shargel.  Below you can find a show breakdown with the exact times listed of when we begin certain discussions, so that you can go directly to whatever part of the show you are most interested in.  Below you can also find most of the charts that we discuss, and links to any outside resources that we refer to.

In the first segment we start with a discussion of the recent death of Steve Jobs, and we discuss our love for all things Apple, and also look at the correlations to Jobs' natal chart.  Next, Delia takes the lead on a discussion of the "Occupy Wall Street" movement, and the correlations to our collective astrological situation.  Then we briefly discuss the death of Muammar Gaddafi from an astrological perspective. And finally I close out the segment with a brief discussion of two films I saw over the summer: Thor, and Cowboys and Aliens, with a look at the lead actors in both films natal charts, focusing on the contrasting Mars alignments of Daniel Craig and Chris Hemsworth.

In the "honoring the gods" segment we focus on the Venus-Mars archetype, and a very rich dialogue ensues with a deep look at the highest gifts of the archetype, as well as its challenges.  We do a general overview of a number of themes associated with the archetype, and then we explore many different famous examples of people born with the combination prominent in their natal chart.  We explore how Venus-Mars aspects are often present in the charts of Dancers, musicians, and performing artists, and discuss examples such as Julie Andrews, Bob Fosse, Bruce Springsteen and others.  I also ask Delia to share some of her experience as a psychotherapist in counseling couples towards what the Venus-Mars archetype represents at its best: the healthy capacity to assert oneself in the context of love relationships.  


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Show Breakdown-

First Segment-

00:00- Introduction and overview.

08:06- We start with a discussion of the recent death of Steve Jobs, and we discuss our love for all things Apple, and also look at the correlations to Jobs' natal chart.

36:53- Next, Delia takes the lead on a discussion of the "Occupy Wall Street" movement, and the correlations to our collective astrological situation.

51:00- Then we briefly discuss the death of Muammar Gaddafi from an astrological perspective.

1:00:00-  And finally I close out the segment with a brief discussion of two films I saw over the summer: Thor, and Cowboys and Aliens, with a look at the natal charts of the lead actors in both films, focusing on the contrasting Mars alignments of Daniel Craig and Chris Hemsworth.

1:13:23- End Segment

Second Segment-


00:00- Introduction to the Venus-Mars archetype. 

We do a general overview of a number of themes associated with the archetype, and then we explore many different famous examples of people born with the combination prominent in their natal chart.  We explore how Venus-Mars aspects are often present in the charts of Dancers, musicians, and performing artists, and discuss examples such as Julie Andrews, Bob Fosse, Bruce Springsteen and others.


13:00- I ask Delia to share some of her experience as a psychotherapist in counseling couples towards what the Venus-Mars archetype represents at its best: the healthy capacity to assert oneself in the context of love relationships.

36:05- I bring in the example of Woody Allen and we look at a clip from the film Deconstructing Harry.

1:24:34- Finis




Delia Shargel, MFT, has been studying archetypal astrology with Richard Tarnas since 1995. She received her M.A. in Integral Counseling Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies and has been in private practice as a licensed psychotherapist in San Francisco since 2001. She specializes in depth work with individuals and couples, and can be reached at deliashargelmft@sbcglobal.net or (415) 978-9220.





Exact birth time from B.C.
Exact birth time from B.C.



First Segment Charts and Resources:

Data From Astrodatabank: A A data






Birth Data from Wikipedia. No birth time, so chart is cast to noon.  There is some question whether this is the accurate date of birth.

Birth Data from Wikipedia. No birth time, so chart is cast to noon.

Birth Data from Wikipedia. No birth time, so chart is cast to noon.





Second Segment Charts and Resources:


We didn't discuss this on the podcast, but Gandhi has a tight Venus-Mars conjunction (opposite a Jupiter-Pluto conjunction) and here it is in action! (Thanks to Ray Grasse for posting this photo on his Facebook page).
















1 comment:

  1. Gandhiji is wearing a dhoti, a traditional Indian garment, in this (amusing) photo. :-)

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