Thursday, July 14, 2011

Episode #8 Recorded 7/13/2011

Delia and I had planned to record a new episode of the podcast this past weekend, but unfortunately she came down with a major flu (feel better Delia!), and we couldn't do it.  So Rick Tarnas graciously agreed to sit down with me tonight, and record an episode so we wouldn't have to go too long between recordings.   The intention was to just do one segment for about an hour and 15 minutes, but as these things have tended to go, we went a little longer than planned, and so I've decided to split this up into two segments.  As I discuss at the beginning of the episode, we are going to start dividing each podcast into two parts, and release them separately (in one week intervals), and so I am releasing this first half today, and look for part two in about a week.

Rick and I had a very rich conversation.  In part one we each share one of our favorite recent correlations that we have been reflecting on.  Rick starts with a discussion of William Butler Yeats' chart, and the correlations to his poem "Leda and the Swan" (see pasted below).  And then I bring in the correlations to German progressive rock group Rammstein, and lead singer Till Lindeman's chart (all charts can be found below).

In part two, Rick and I spend a little time talking about the recent scandal involving Rupert Murdoch's paper The News of the World, which has now collapsed under the leadership of  Rebekah Brooks.  We look at both Brooks' and Murdoch's charts, and also briefly discuss Murdoch's current transits.  We then move to a dialogue about a couple of questions I've been reflecting on recently regarding the nature of archetypes, and how they correlate to configurations in the natal chart and transits.  I've been reflecting on the truth that each of us contain all of the archetypes (or perhaps more accurately, as James Hillman would insist, we are contained within all of the archetypes), that we all have access to all of the archetypal energies all of the time as represented by the planetary archetypes and there combinations with each other (aspects).  But what then does this imply for astrology which suggests that certain archetypes are more dominant in some of us, and that certain archetypes can become more dominant at certain times (transits).  Does the fact that we have access to all of the archetypes all of the time, mean that any correlations we find to natal positions or transits are ultimately meaningless (in a spiritual sense) given that we contain everything anyway?  A rich dialogue ensues.  Below you can find a show breakdown with the exact times listed of when we begin certain discussions, so that you can go directly to whatever part of the show you are most interested in.  Below you can also find most of the charts that we discuss, and links to any outside resources that we refer to.



You can also download the mp3 file directly to your computer by clicking on this highlighted text.  It will take you to the server that is hosting the sound-file.  There are different options for downloading the file, but on the left side of the page you will see a window that says "Listen to Audio," and in the lower half of that window it says "play/download."  Click on the blue link here that says "VBR ZIP"  This should download a compressed version of the mp3 file.  After it downloads it should open into an mp3 file that you can listen to with iTunes.  You can also download what is called an "Ogg" file, and this is a smaller file, but you will need compatible software.

And here is the link for direct download of Part Two.

Show Breakdown-

Part One-

00:00- Introductions and overview of the plan for the Podcast, and a few business items.

05:22- Rick starts with a discussion of William Butler Yeats' chart, and the correlations to his poem "Leda and the Swan" (see pasted below).

24:20-   I bring in the correlations to German progressive rock group Rammstein, and lead singer Till Lindeman's chart (all charts can be found below).

51:42- End Part One

Part Two- (Should be available on 7/21/11)

00:00- Rick and I spend a little time talking about the recent scandal involving Rupert Murdoch's paper The News of the World, which has now collapsed under the leadership of  Rebekah Brooks.  We look at both Brooks' and Murdoch's charts, and also briefly discuss Murdoch's current transits.

22:00- We move to a dialogue about a couple of questions I've been reflecting on recently regarding the nature of archetypes, and how they correlate to configurations in the natal chart and transits.

1:02:59- Finis











Richard Tarnas is the founding director of the Philosophy, Cosmology, and Consciousness program at the California Institute of Integral Studies. A graduate of Harvard University and Saybrook Institute, he was formerly director of programs and education at Esalen Institute.

He is author of The Passion of the Western Mind and Cosmos and Psyche: Intimations of a New World View, which received the Book of the Year Prize from the Scientific and Medical Network in Great Britain. For more information on his work, please visit www.cosmosandpsyche.com  and  www.archaijournal.org

Exact birth time from B.C.

Exact birth time from B.C.



Part One Charts and Resources:

Birth Data from Astrodatabank: AA data







"Leda and the Swan"  William Butler yeats   
 
A sudden blow: the great wings beating still
    Above the staggering girl, her thighs caressed
    By the dark webs, her nape caught in his bill,
    He holds her helpless breast upon his breast.

    How can those terrified vague fingers push
    The feathered glory from her loosening thighs?
    And how can body, laid in that white rush,
    But feel the strange heart beating where it lies?

    A shudder in the loins engenders there
    The broken wall, the burning roof and tower[20]
    And Agamemnon dead.

                        Being so caught up,
    So mastered by the brute blood of the air,
    Did she put on his knowledge with his power
    Before the indifferent beak could let her drop?
Birth Data from Wikipedia. No birth time, so chart is cast to noon.

Here is the video that Rick and I discuss:





Part Two Charts and resources:

Birth Data from Astrodatabank: B data

Birth Data from Wikipedia. No birth time, so chart is cast to noon.

2 comments:

  1. As a loyal listener and fan of Correlations :) I fantasize about Keiron Le Grice one day Skype-ing in for one of these podcasts :-) Thanks, Matthew!

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  2. Hey Artemis: I've been planning on inviting Keiron on for one. I've just been waiting until I felt like I was in more in a groove with the basic structure, and then I want to start inviting several other guests. I think at some point in the fall we will start mixing things up more.

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